Odex goes International!
UPDATE 20/11/2007: I have confirmations from an Odex employee that the whole thing was a mistake made by BayTSP. LOL. Show’s over, guys. Expect damage control to kick in soon.
UPDATE AGAIN: It seems that I wasn’t too clear. I have independent confirmation from a current Odex employee that the whole thing was a mistake. This is not based on any comments left in this entry, but rather first hand information from the employee himself.
UPDATE 21/11/2007: Read The New Paper’s article. LOL.
Okay, now the shit really hits the fan. After months of silence, Odex has resumed its attack, this time on an international scale. If you’ve been living under a rock for the past year or so and don’t know who Odex is, please refer to Wikipedia.
Godwin’s Law be damned
Reports are emerging that people from USA, France, Japan and probably various other countries are receiving warnings from their ISPs about illegal anime downloads.
In particular, the French ISP Club Internet and the Japanese ISP USEN attached logs from BayTSP, sent on behalf of Odex, with their warning e-mails. This clearly identifies Odex/AVPAS as the source of the infringement complaints. USA’s Comcast did not identify the right holder, but the timing of this whole thing and the similar format of the logs indicate that this is probably not a coincidence.
Odex is definitely responsible for the warnings.
Some important paragraphs from the e-mails included after the break.
Club Internet (France)
Club Internet - T-Online FranceName
address
FranceCountryDear Sir or Madam:
BayTSP, Inc. (”BayTSP”) swears under penalty of perjury that it is authorized to act on behalf of ODEX Private Limited/Anti Video Piracy Association (Singapore) (collectively known as ODEX/AVPAS), the exclusive licensees and/or authorized agents of the owners of copyright materials and interests (the Copyright Owners) that is protected in Singapore under applicable copyright laws in force and enacted pursuant to various international treaties. BayTSP’s search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of exclusive copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the attached report.
BayTSP has reasonable good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of in the attached report is not authorized by the Copyright Owners, their agents, or the law. The information provided herein is accurate to the best of our knowledge. The attached documentation specifies the exact location of the infringement.
Attachment:
Contact BayTSP, authorized agent for ODEX PRIVATE LIMITED/AVPAS at the address listed above or via email should you have any concerns or questions at compliance@baytsp.com. Also please note that this infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate the processing of this data.
Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 61192
Asset: Ouran High School Host Club
Protocol: BitTorrent
IP Address: 89.85.xx.xx
DNS: i07v-89-85-xx-xx.d4.club-internet.fr
File Name:
[Nerae]_Ouran_High_School_Host_Club_22_[57603381].avi
File Size: 370843648
Timestamp: 11 Nov 2007 06:17:33 GMT
Last Seen Date: 11 Nov 2007 06:17:33 GMT
URL: http://bt.nerae.com:7072/announce
Username (if available):
[ Source: bikasuishin ]
USEN GyaO Hikari (Japan)
株式会社 ＵＳＥＮ
いつも「GyaO 光」をご利用いただき、誠にありがとうございます。
この度外部より、「221.251.XXX.XXX」のIPアドレスにて各企業・個人が著作権 を有するデータを公開しているとのご連絡を受けております。弊社にて確認させて頂きましたところ、「ＰＩＮＡＮＳＫＹＳＡＭＵＥＬ」様のご利用の環境から送信された事が判明致しました。
著作者に無断で複製・記載・加工・使用等をする行為は、著作権の侵害にあたります。弊社約款上、「 当社もしくは他人の知的財産所有権（特許権、実用新案、著作権、意匠権、商標権等）その他の権利を侵害する行為または侵害する恐れのある行為（著作権侵害防止のための技術的保護手段を回避するための情報、機器またはソフトウェア等を流通させる行為を含みます。）」は禁止とさせて頂いており（第29条－(5)－ア）、規約違反行為に関しましては利用停止とさせて頂く場合もございます。
今後とも該当する行為が継続された場合、他のお客様や外部のネットワークに対して迷惑がかかりますため、早急な対応を必要としております。
Attachment:
Contact BayTSP, authorized agent for ODEX PRIVATE LIMITED/AVPAS at the address listed above or via email should you have any concerns or questions at compliance@baytsp.com. Also please note that this infringement notice contains an XML tag that can be used to automate the processing of this data.
Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 35082
Asset: SHUGO CHARA
Protocol: BitTorrent
IP Address: 221.251.XXX.XXX
DNS: 221×251xXXXxXXX.ap221.ftth.ucom.ne.jp
File Name:
[Formula]_Shugo_Chara!_-_01_[h264][E1719697].mkv
File Size: 147505790
Timestamp: 12 Nov 2007 12:43:44 GMT
Last Seen Date: 12 Nov 2007 12:43:44 GMT
URL: http://tracker.scarywater.net:443/announce
Username (if available):
[ Source: Quarkboy on AnimeSuki ]
Comcast (USA)
Dear Comcast High-Speed Internet Subscriber:
Comcast has received a notification by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, reporting an alleged infringement of one or more copyrighted works made on or over Comcast’s High-Speed Internet service (the ‘Service’). The copyright owner has identified the Internet Protocol (’IP’) address associated with your Service account at the time as the source of the infringing works. The works identified by the copyright owner in its notification are listed below. Comcast reminds you that use of the Service (or any part of the Service) in any manner that constitutes an infringement of any copyrighted work is a violation of Comcast’s Acceptable Use Policy and may result in the suspension or termination of your Service account.
Attachment:
[ Source: aldraek on AnimeSuki ]
The introductory paragraph which identifies BayTSP and Odex/AVPAS was removed from e-mails forwarded by Comcast. But since all three evidential BitTorrent logs share the exact same formatting, there’s not much room for doubt. They were all sent by BayTSP.
Comcast is known for actively interfering with BitTorrent packets on top of throttling, so they are probably overjoyed by this development. Bastards.
Does anyone know if Odex won its case against Pacific Internet? Judging by this latest bold move, I would guess that it did. But still, does anyone have confirmations?
Is this the beginning of the end of fansubbing? Will Odex succeed? Can they handle the backlash that is on its way? And is the cake really a lie? Find out in the next episode!
UPDATE: By the way, the Wikipedia article is outdated. The hearing for Odex vs PacNet was indeed postponed by the judge, but the rescheduled hearing took place three days ago on the 16th. You can read the court document in PDF. (Scroll down to page 19.)
I believe that the timing of this can’t possibly be a coincidence. So, once again, does anyone know what the ruling was?
November 19th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
there’s not enough channels in america that show anime for there to be anything more than fansubs, at least not in my region. without fansubs I wouldn’t've bought most of the anime I own, and some of the anime I downloaded might not make it over here, but that doesn’t mean I’ll not look up the company’s other works and watch them, then probably buy them. But if they did what radiohead did (http://digg.com/music/New_Radiohead_album_In_Rainbows_pay_what_you_think_it_s_worth) which is pay what you want for their work (which could be 0) and/or buy the box which has extra features that are not with the download….. now that would be cool………
November 19th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Enzer Miliard:
This is why the corporate brass really ought to get their heads of the rotten, reeking, retarded 1950s copyright butt-plan they are adhereing to. This goes for every industry affected by filesharing, movies, TV shows, anime, music. (games too, though game companies seem to be keeping quiet for now).
November 19th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
quendidil - True, raws may come under attack as well. From the way things are going, I will probably end up finding a new hobby.
I’m not exactly sure that it’s still about sales lost now - the Japanese studios seem to just want to cut down on infringements of their copyright. What damage do fansubs do to their sales after all?
November 20th, 2007 at 12:03 am
I suspect that Odex’s international action has something to do with their rolling out their video online service. There was this article in the Chinese newspaper interviewing Goh at the anime convention (?) in Tokyo. He mentioned their video online will be available this month and they were trying to convince the Japanese that their business model can protect their works. Maybe they are cracking down internationally just to show the Japanese.
November 20th, 2007 at 12:44 am
…now Odex is trying to kill out fansub dl-ing in USa and france?
doesn’t look very good imo, things could complicate if some company like ADV joins in and make another big fuss.
I wonder how Odex even get the revenue to do such insane things.
November 20th, 2007 at 1:27 am
>I wonder how Odex even get the revenue to do such insane things.
That is what I’d like to know too.
I hope it does not create some kind of legal “wave” for other distributors. The last thing you’d want is every country taking action like ODEX is doing.
Then you’d have to route everything through a secure channel. blarg.
November 20th, 2007 at 2:04 am
i guess odex just sucks, they are just desperate for money. what they are doin is violation of country authority… or something like that. who in the world they think they are to lecture other country and even send letters to the creating anime country, which is japan?
November 20th, 2007 at 2:09 am
OK, for those who are willing to hear me out.
One of Odex’s directors have a sort of indirect financial backing from an unlisted company in China, so they are more than willing to splurge on this nonsensical spree. Can somebody find me that link to the company’s shareholder info?
2nd, it’s a step backwards, but as RIAA fiasco goes, Odex is emulating the same fiasco. So people, relakks. It’s not a penalty goal yet (albeit an on-target shot).
3rd, Odex is playing Mr. Sheriff here. The only challenge you need to face are those who created the shows. Face it: Odex is like a Jack Thompson & Uwe Boll combined into one.
4th, this is a final “face-saving” measure by Odex to scare the hell out of anime fans. If anything goes, everyone knows Odex now, and everyone will equate Odex with all the RIAA negativity.
5th: I guess the Big 5 Content Providers are too late on this scales of economics. Odex has shot itself by acting the same way as the Big 5, and I wish all of them to hell and back. (I bloody love this blog post!)
Now, guys, it’s time for you to send out your zigs, Zakus, Justice & Freedom (or for that matter, any Gundam models from any timeline series), arm slaves, armored core (for the hardcore), any sentai robots, F-18s, Su-34s, whats-that-Kamina-drill-thingy and all arsenal.
Time for some otaku payback time.
November 20th, 2007 at 2:11 am
Now it’ll be much harder to download anime. It may be a nightmare if we have to watch ODEX’s shitty “legal” stuffs, instead of getting good quality videos.
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A Message from Odex to the World - All Your Animes Are Belong To Us! « .:~+┼ ĻũşŤřŏůŞ Ŗꥼm ┼+~:.November 20th, 2007 at 2:12 am
[...] scale. You could say that I’m actually quite surprised over this news when I first read Dark Mirage’s entry. Don’t believe me? Here’s an evidence. Contact BayTSP, authorized agent for ODEX [...]
November 20th, 2007 at 2:15 am
TP : http://sgcafe.com/showthread.php?t=36640
November 20th, 2007 at 2:17 am
Seriously, when will all this shit by Odex finally ends? They are seriously trying to wipe out animes from the face of the earth just like an epidemic. Yes a good word to describe them would be ‘epidemic’.
To them, this is justice. To us, this is exactly the same as mental tortures.
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Odex Declares War Against The World » Thoughts » Neko Kyou’s Anime BlogNovember 20th, 2007 at 2:25 am
[...] Odex is back and this time, they are trying to screw not only Singaporean anime fans, but the entire world. What? Yes, you heard that right. Odex probably spent all their Singaporean dollars and decided that its much more profitable to attack where there are more fishes with bigger currencies. This includes USA, France and Japan. [...]
November 20th, 2007 at 2:30 am
well, even if they wan to stop illegal downloading, do they have to interfere other countries’ business? i mean, i am not from japan or where, i am a singaporean, and with them interfering with other country, its like we are somehow desperate to kill people not to stop illegal downloading, but for money. get wut i mean?
November 20th, 2007 at 2:47 am
Does ODEX license Hentai? because if they don’t, there’s still hope. orz.
November 20th, 2007 at 2:53 am
You gotta wonder what comcast is thinking, not disclosing its source and all. Makes you wonder if they fear that finding out it is a Singaporean company would make customers laugh. Making customers think they are under threat from a domestic company just seems to serve comcast’s purpose.
Also… THE CAKE IS A LIE, THE CAKE IS A LIE, THE CAKE IS A LIE!!! “Comcast is like, you’re gonna get sued. And you were like, NO WAY!! Wasn’t that so much fun?” lol
November 20th, 2007 at 5:38 am
I’m using Comcast OTL
November 20th, 2007 at 5:43 am
BTW DM, that picture is COMPLETELY misleading. ODEX DOES NOT have a cute goth loli leading them.
November 20th, 2007 at 7:43 am
And so the great anime wars begins…
I think some of the third world countries are safe because most of them don’t care much on “copyright”.
November 20th, 2007 at 8:04 am
GOD!!! whats friggin wrong with them man! Does it mean that anime series which are unliscened is not allowed too?
P/S:DM,may i use some of ur info on my blog? I will give credit to you and a link to the original post. thk you.