Comments on: Animation Asia Conference 2009 http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/ Anime, Games, J-Pop and Whatever Else Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:55:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Otakunvirka » Väliinputoajien maa http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-274419 Otakunvirka » Väliinputoajien maa Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:56:08 +0000 http://www.darkmirage.com/?p=1405#comment-274419 [...] itse. Myös ANN:n Justin Sevakis palloili paikalla, ainakin perjantaina ennen conia järjestetyssä ammattilaistapahtumassa. Kotimaista näkökulmaa coniin saa [...] [...] itse. Myös ANN:n Justin Sevakis palloili paikalla, ainakin perjantaina ennen conia järjestetyssä ammattilaistapahtumassa. Kotimaista näkökulmaa coniin saa [...]

]]> By: Anime Festival Asia 2009 | Furu Anime Panikku http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-273729 Anime Festival Asia 2009 | Furu Anime Panikku Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:21:07 +0000 http://www.darkmirage.com/?p=1405#comment-273729 [...] I didn’t manage to attend AAC ‘09 which was held on 20th November as I had school. School sucks. It was a real pity that I missed out on it as I heard that it was a rather enriching experience. You certainly couldn’t expect less from an industry talk. You can find out more about the event from Darkmirage’s coverage. [...] [...] I didn’t manage to attend AAC ‘09 which was held on 20th November as I had school. School sucks. It was a real pity that I missed out on it as I heard that it was a rather enriching experience. You certainly couldn’t expect less from an industry talk. You can find out more about the event from Darkmirage’s coverage. [...]

]]> By: The-O http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-273708 The-O Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:39:49 +0000 http://www.darkmirage.com/?p=1405#comment-273708 Sounds very interesting, with the economic downturn and decline of anime in America, it's good to see it booming in other countries. Definitely a lot more interesting than this year's Anime Expo industry keynotes, I pretty much skipped all of them. Time to book my tickets for AFA 2010 and bring the rest of the crew it looks like. Sounds very interesting, with the economic downturn and decline of anime in America, it’s good to see it booming in other countries. Definitely a lot more interesting than this year’s Anime Expo industry keynotes, I pretty much skipped all of them. Time to book my tickets for AFA 2010 and bring the rest of the crew it looks like.

]]> By: ahboh http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-273530 ahboh Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:05:42 +0000 http://www.darkmirage.com/?p=1405#comment-273530 At the prices they were charging, was definitely going to give this a miss. At the prices they were charging, was definitely going to give this a miss.

]]> By: houkoholic http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-273515 houkoholic Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:37:59 +0000 http://www.darkmirage.com/?p=1405#comment-273515 I'm actually going to have to partially agree with Peter Goh on why you couldn't convince the Japanese side to do streaming, at least from his POV as a Singapore anime licensor. CR had a lot of "being at the right place and time" moments, and from certain insiders I've talked to they certainly weren't the first to try to convince the Japanese side to do streaming (I've heard that Funi pitched it to the Japanese even earlier). Why CR got through in the end though is basically the following points: 1) they had a large chuck of VC money to burn 2) they were an established internet site with proven traffic, hot on the heals of the Youtube and Nicodouga accqusitions (whereas the other licensors weren't) 3) follow from above, Gonzo bought into them (the other licensors weren't up for grabs, and they weren't hot internet stocks, which makes them lesser of a return of investment, business investment wise) 4) they were American (yes, it matters, I've heard from contacts the Japanese wants to offer the Americans first dips because they are the still the largest non-Japanese anime sector, revenue wise) It's not a matter of the licensors didn't try (which I know for a fact), it's just they are in a different position to negotiate with the licensees. And if you are just pitching the whole streaming idea, than yes, I would say it is a bit naive because the devil is in the details as the idea of streaming media goes way back and the licensors, AFAIK, had all tried pitching it. I’m actually going to have to partially agree with Peter Goh on why you couldn’t convince the Japanese side to do streaming, at least from his POV as a Singapore anime licensor.

CR had a lot of “being at the right place and time” moments, and from certain insiders I’ve talked to they certainly weren’t the first to try to convince the Japanese side to do streaming (I’ve heard that Funi pitched it to the Japanese even earlier). Why CR got through in the end though is basically the following points:
1) they had a large chuck of VC money to burn
2) they were an established internet site with proven traffic, hot on the heals of the Youtube and Nicodouga accqusitions (whereas the other licensors weren’t)
3) follow from above, Gonzo bought into them (the other licensors weren’t up for grabs, and they weren’t hot internet stocks, which makes them lesser of a return of investment, business investment wise)
4) they were American (yes, it matters, I’ve heard from contacts the Japanese wants to offer the Americans first dips because they are the still the largest non-Japanese anime sector, revenue wise)

It’s not a matter of the licensors didn’t try (which I know for a fact), it’s just they are in a different position to negotiate with the licensees. And if you are just pitching the whole streaming idea, than yes, I would say it is a bit naive because the devil is in the details as the idea of streaming media goes way back and the licensors, AFAIK, had all tried pitching it.

]]> By: fan anon http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-273514 fan anon Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:27:54 +0000 http://www.darkmirage.com/?p=1405#comment-273514 I've been with cruchyroll since It's beginnings, and it always struck me that even though all the videos on it were fansubs, it seemed they tried to remain as legal as possible. As soon as an anime was licensed BAM all related videos were removed and in that gaping hole was left some red text saying "REMOVED". I will admit, it always pissed me off, the straddling of the line between legal and illegal they did (or tried to do, fansubs=illegal) And i was quite angry about CR going completely legal before i thought about, mostly because the choice of anime was severely cut down (into the single digits in the beginning) and because those animes that were up were only available to residents of the U.S. or related territories. When I thought about it however, I realized that this decision to go legal was a new and interesting one, and I wished to see how it went. It seems to be flourishing now, more titles are being added to their arsenal all the time. I’ve been with cruchyroll since It’s beginnings, and it always struck me that even though all the videos on it were fansubs, it seemed they tried to remain as legal as possible. As soon as an anime was licensed BAM all related videos were removed and in that gaping hole was left some red text saying “REMOVED”. I will admit, it always pissed me off, the straddling of the line between legal and illegal they did (or tried to do, fansubs=illegal) And i was quite angry about CR going completely legal before i thought about, mostly because the choice of anime was severely cut down (into the single digits in the beginning) and because those animes that were up were only available to residents of the U.S. or related territories. When I thought about it however, I realized that this decision to go legal was a new and interesting one, and I wished to see how it went. It seems to be flourishing now, more titles are being added to their arsenal all the time.

]]> By: Loba http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-273509 Loba Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:23:23 +0000 http://www.darkmirage.com/?p=1405#comment-273509 It's too late for odex. It’s too late for odex.

]]> By: BlogLinkJapan » Animation Asia Conference 2009 http://www.darkmirage.com/2009/11/21/animation-asia-conference-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-273507 BlogLinkJapan » Animation Asia Conference 2009 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:10:35 +0000 http://www.darkmirage.com/?p=1405#comment-273507 [...] BlogLinkJapan Animation Asia Conference 2009 [...] [...] BlogLinkJapan Animation Asia Conference 2009 [...]

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